[Mayan EDMS: 2324] Search/Filer by multiple Tags

[Costi Budai]

Couldn't find anything related to multiple Tags search or filter.
Is there a special syntax for it?

[Costi Budai]

Somebody? Any idea how to "Advance Search" using multiple Tags?
Thanks in advance!

Post by Costi Budai
Couldn't find anything related to multiple Tags search or filter.
Is there a special syntax for it?

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When you use the "Tag" search box, whatever you type will be search against
all available tags.

Post by Costi Budai
Somebody? Any idea how to "Advance Search" using multiple Tags?
Thanks in advance!

Post by Costi Budai
Couldn't find anything related to multiple Tags search or filter.
Is there a special syntax for it?

[Costi Budai]

Thanks for answering.

Indeed, what you say it's true, but only if you type one Tag(or partial
content from a Tag).

I want to display/filter/search for documents having multiple different
tags.
Let's say you have ten tags(Tag1 to Tag10) and a bunch of documents
assigned with different mixed tags.
If you advance search "Tag" box for example with string "Tag2 Tag4" or
"Tag2 & Tag4" "Tag2 + Tag4" you won't get anything(unless there is a
document having explicit only Tag2 and Tag4 assigned).
If you advance search "Tag" box for example with string "Tag2, Tag4" you'll
get only documents having Tag4(or in addition with other tags, but
different than Tag2).

This has to be a simple search syntax and some basic implementation but
seems to be missing(or not documented).
I can't imagine that all the people using Mayan didn't raised this issue
until now, or they're only using single tag search?!

[Michael Price]

There are some changes to improve that. Search terms are now routed to an
"AND" query. That means that a search for: Tag1 Tag2 will return documents
with both Tags. To offer the opposite choice we added and "OR" syntax.
Searching for: Tag1 OR Tag2 will return documents with either of both. We
started working on negative search queries like: -Tag1 which would return
documents that don't have the Tag, but this feature is very hard to
implement and not ready. We are talking about adding but not documenting
it. We want only experienced users to test it.

Searching without using a specialized search database is tough. Most
software just take the lazy route and force the user to install a dedicated
search engine. Early on we noticed Mayan's design called for avoiding a
separate search engine at the cost of some missing search syntax. The OR
and negative term is our first attempt at adding special syntax to Mayan's
our search code. It we get good feedback, we plan to add more.

The indexing, tagging and smart linking in Mayan make searching almost
obsolete. It is a brilliant design that I haven't seen anywhere else. We
are taking about automatic tagging to elevate tags to the same level as
indexes and links which are automatic.

Post by Costi Budai
Thanks for answering.
Indeed, what you say it's true, but only if you type one Tag(or partial
content from a Tag).
I want to display/filter/search for documents having multiple different
tags.
Let's say you have ten tags(Tag1 to Tag10) and a bunch of documents
assigned with different mixed tags.
If you advance search "Tag" box for example with string "Tag2 Tag4" or
"Tag2 & Tag4" "Tag2 + Tag4" you won't get anything(unless there is a
document having explicit only Tag2 and Tag4 assigned).
If you advance search "Tag" box for example with string "Tag2, Tag4"
you'll get only documents having Tag4(or in addition with other tags, but
different than Tag2).
This has to be a simple search syntax and some basic implementation but
seems to be missing(or not documented).
I can't imagine that all the people using Mayan didn't raised this issue
until now, or they're only using single tag search?!

[Costi Budai]

Thanks for clearing this up Michael.
These implementations are going to be available for next version of Mayan
EDMS or are you talking about EDMS NG
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mayan-edms/73-5LAdWIw8> version?
If it's about EDMS NG, are they already included in current version?

Post by Michael Price
There are some changes to improve that. Search terms are now routed to an
"AND" query. That means that a search for: Tag1 Tag2 will return documents
with both Tags. To offer the opposite choice we added and "OR" syntax.
Searching for: Tag1 OR Tag2 will return documents with either of both. We
started working on negative search queries like: -Tag1 which would return
documents that don't have the Tag, but this feature is very hard to
implement and not ready. We are talking about adding but not documenting
it. We want only experienced users to test it.
Searching without using a specialized search database is tough. Most
software just take the lazy route and force the user to install a dedicated
search engine. Early on we noticed Mayan's design called for avoiding a
separate search engine at the cost of some missing search syntax. The OR
and negative term is our first attempt at adding special syntax to Mayan's
our search code. It we get good feedback, we plan to add more.
The indexing, tagging and smart linking in Mayan make searching almost
obsolete. It is a brilliant design that I haven't seen anywhere else. We
are taking about automatic tagging to elevate tags to the same level as
indexes and links which are automatic.

[Michael Price]

These changes will be available in the next version of Mayan EDMS NG,
version 3.0. We don't have developer access to the official Mayan EDMS
repository. It will up to Roberto and his core team to include our changes.

The code is almost ready and a release should happen soon.

Post by Costi Budai
Thanks for clearing this up Michael.
These implementations are going to be available for next version of Mayan
EDMS or are you talking about EDMS NG
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mayan-edms/73-5LAdWIw8> version?
If it's about EDMS NG, are they already included in current version?

Post by Michael Price
There are some changes to improve that. Search terms are now routed to an
"AND" query. That means that a search for: Tag1 Tag2 will return documents
with both Tags. To offer the opposite choice we added and "OR" syntax.
Searching for: Tag1 OR Tag2 will return documents with either of both. We
started working on negative search queries like: -Tag1 which would return
documents that don't have the Tag, but this feature is very hard to
implement and not ready. We are talking about adding but not documenting
it. We want only experienced users to test it.
Searching without using a specialized search database is tough. Most
software just take the lazy route and force the user to install a dedicated
search engine. Early on we noticed Mayan's design called for avoiding a
separate search engine at the cost of some missing search syntax. The OR
and negative term is our first attempt at adding special syntax to Mayan's
our search code. It we get good feedback, we plan to add more.
The indexing, tagging and smart linking in Mayan make searching almost
obsolete. It is a brilliant design that I haven't seen anywhere else. We
are taking about automatic tagging to elevate tags to the same level as
indexes and links which are automatic.